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A Numbers 25:6 kind of moment..
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I have five daughters. Their father passed away in 2018 the youngest was 17 at that time. Needless to say I have young  adult daughters still relying on my input . They are like little chickens just peckin about at whatever interests them at the moment. They seem uninterested in much to do with Christianity. That would be much of my and their dads fault.
There is a little background. Before the end of this year their dads estate will close and they will be joint owners of the home that my oldest  and youngest live in now. I live with them too. 
My oldest daughter is planning to move in  a former boyfriend who will be getting out of prison in a month to the jointly owned home and has not discussed this with her sisters. This man claims to now be a Christian. I ask why would some who loves and serves God want to get out and live with any woman?
My youngest daughter called the parole board to let them know she does not approve of this housing assignment and gave them some background as to who owns the house. They said he could not live at an address where any owners did not agree. They would note this and he will be denied the request. 
My youngest is soon to discuss this with my oldest. 
I have been praying since since I woke today. It feels like a “Phineas get the Midianite out” kind of situation. Please beseech the Father in prayer with me that Gods Glory and Will be done.
Thank you RF family.
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#2
So they have no covering except yours? That's a tough situation, Sister. Guiding a bunch of siblings who show no interest in faith is like herding cats, at best. If the fellow coming out of prison is actually a Christian, he should know he has to prove himself in a world that knows almost nothing about him. If he resents that, it's a very bad sign. May the Lord provide clarity and patience for you.
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#3
My heart feels for you.  I too have daughters - both in their 40's.  One with my three grandchildren lives near me; the other is lost to me.  When challenges appear in our lives, it is difficult to just take a deep breath and hand it to the Lord at times.  Believe me, it happens to me a LOT.  But you and I both know He truly is in control.  You can only make choices for yourself; your daughters make theirs. 

I will pray right now and ongoing for your situation and ask of the Lord to bring you His peace and to help you with His wisdom and His Strength.  May your heart be so filled with His Spirit that His Glory will shine out of and through you as a beautiful witness to your daughters and all.

I will also pray for your two daughters to be filled with the Spirit of compassion and kindness towards one another when "the talk" begins between them.

God bless you, honey      (:^)

Linda
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(10-06-2021, 01:54 PM)Ed Hurst Wrote: So they have no covering except yours? That's a tough situation, Sister. Guiding a bunch of siblings who show no interest in faith is like herding cats, at best. If the fellow coming out of prison is actually a Christian, he should know he has to prove himself in a world that knows almost nothing about him. If he resents that, it's a very bad sign. May the Lord provide clarity and patience for you.

Am I their covering? That is interesting, I have not thought of myself that way since they became young adults. I guess I have felt more like their neighbor.

(10-06-2021, 02:49 PM)forrealone Wrote: My heart feels for you.  I too have daughters - both in their 40's.  One with my three grandchildren lives near me; the other is lost to me.  When challenges appear in our lives, it is difficult to just take a deep breath and hand it to the Lord at times.  Believe me, it happens to me a LOT.  But you and I both know He truly is in control.  You can only make choices for yourself; your daughters make theirs. 

I will pray right now and ongoing for your situation and ask of the Lord to bring you His peace and to help you with His wisdom and His Strength.  May your heart be so filled with His Spirit that His Glory will shine out of and through you as a beautiful witness to your daughters and all.

I will also pray for your two daughters to be filled with the Spirit of compassion and kindness towards one another when "the talk" begins between them.

God bless you, honey      (:^)

Linda

Thank you Linda. I have really felt your prayers.

Good morning RF family
Prayer report:
“The talk” between my daughters happened Thursday. I was not there for the beginning but was called in midway because things were gettin not so nice. My oldest did not  take it well and lashed out at her youngest sister and never would agree that she had acted deceptively with her plan. 
For the last two days I have been in damage control mode. It is kinda like a retreat from a skimish with a lot of silence along with quiet negotiations hear and there. 
My youngest is sad disappointed and of course does not like to have a problem with her oldest sister she loves dearly. My oldest is like flint on her position sad but not backing down, and planning to get out as soon as she can onto her new life new man plan.
“The talk” was messy , not as bad as times in the past. I mean we have had some knock down drag outs. Before the Father spiritually awakened me I was hell on wheels, so you can imagine the strong daughters that could produce. I reflected I had a calm along side a heated disappointment  kind of thing happening inside of me as the feud happened. I also silently prayed as I listened. That was surprising to me because being a mom it is so easy to go full ballistic on your children when they are swords drawn on each other. I could have done better. Will you agree with me that the Father will forgive any worthless words I may have spoken. He might have mercy and forgiveness for my daughters.
I know I felt your prayers. I know I felt strength coming from your spirits to mine these last days. I have felt encouraged and that is not normally what I would feel after tough times. I am Grateful Jesus has heard my prayers and has brought to me, through unlikely means, strong mature Followers to pray with me. He did it in this life before I died. 
Thank you, just thank you.
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#5
We are not surprised that our prayers helped, and that you felt them. This the norm for what we teach, and we rejoice with you.

I suppose I should have been more explicit about covering, because your situation is so far out of the norm: Your covering is all the covering they have, and second-hand covering is very iffy at best. The only alternative is if they individually seek a valid covering elsewhere. So, your eldest daughter will be under the covering of her new man, whatever that turns out to be. The civil definition of minor versus adult has no bearing here. Covering is a function of moral dominion, of a feudal grant from God. To the degree those girls follow your lead, they have some covering. To the degree they go off on their own, the may have none that matters.

Insofar as you embrace my covering, or anyone else's, you at least have that much. Overlapping it with multiple coverings from others is a good thing, especially if someone local is involved. Females become familial covering by default to the extent no other covering is available. So you are both neighbor in one sense, and a limited covering in another sense. It's not as simple as shared living space, but of voluntarily taking your counsel and direction.

The tough part is this: In the flesh, the die has been cast in their lives. There's nothing you can do in the flesh now, except as they remain interested in your input. Your witness to them is a very real mission field. All you have now is waiting on the Lord to act in His mercy and grace. You will always be the Mom, but your moral authority is very shaky right now, given the context of cultural factors. We will stand with you as you discover the meaning of, "Prepare for the worst and pray for the best."

This the part I hate about not being able to meet with any of you face to face.
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"There's nothing you can do in the flesh now, except as they remain interested in your input. Your witness to them is a very real mission field. All you have now is waiting on the Lord to act in His mercy and grace"         Amen to that, Ed.  

Denise, I go through this often especially with my daughter and grandchildren two miles away and frequent visits.  (:^)  She was raised in the best way I knew.  I became a believer in '79, two years after she was born.  Got "lost" in '91 after my first husband and I divorced. For several years I really blew it aka not being Christian at all.  I married again in '96 and life went crazy a little.  After my husband died in 2019, I have been held closely by our Father and He has carried me through some doozies.   I could never have made it without Him. 

For now, I do my best to ensure that my words and actions towards my family is a  witness to them of Our Father's Love.  Not that I am perfect because I mess up a lot!  

I will continue to lift you and your daughters up often to the Lord.  We need each other to do that every day or moment that we remember to! 

When I pray, I "travel" the world and the US in my mind and as I pass over each state, I pray for the folks I know there.  Soooo, as I "fly" over Alabama, my little prayers will stop over y'all.

God bless you honey!
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#7
What Ed mentioned about covering is true, I just want to emphasize. It's not a secret here that we teach that men are the default covering in a household. Unfortunately, the western culture at large, especially in America, doesn't teach or support that, and when it does, it's an imperfect shadow that emphasizes varying degrees of belligerence to maintain control. For sure, man-as-covering isn't perfect, even with a culture in support of it, and women can act as covering (as it is in Denise's situation), but you'll have a rough road ahead. Don't take that as a warning, but encouragement, because those "rough roads" tend to be the best way to let the Lord's light shine brightest.
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Thanks guys, I am encouraged today! Yay!
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