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[IainH]

Gadzooks Jay! I didn't mean to insult Pennsylvanians by saying they were from East Anglia, my bad. The Puritans were from East Anglia, the mid Atlantic states were settled by folks from the English Midlands. The Southern Tidewater region was settled by Southern English and the backwoods by Scots Irish, plain old Scots, some Welsh and northern Englishsters. Also some Germans and Jews in North and South Carolina. Each contributing to the development of distinct regional cultures. The idea of a single American culture is and always has been bunk.

I actually grew up in Massachusetts, so I don't mind you badmouthing Pittsburgh or PA. I actually don't mind you badmouthing New Englanders, either. They can be a stuffy lot, and really conservative and stingy with employment--I had to move to find a "career" job. If you're a little bit not what they expect, you won't find gainful Bachelor-degree level employment in New England.

Living where I do, I've had the opportunity to observe the peculiarities of the Yankee as they colonize Watauga county, NC. This led me to the question "why are these people so different and why are they so condescending, critical and dismissive of the existing culture as backward? Why do they want to enact the very same policies that ruined the places they left?" I have no answer to the latter question but, I now have an explanation for the former. Now if I was to badmouth them I would say "Yankee's are self righteous assholes who believe it is their mission to intervene and force their ideas on everyone else, thereby creating a better world" The Nationist ideal of one nation, indivisible and a single "American" culture is a Yankee invention dating back to the Revolutionary period; Globalism is merely an extension of this ideology. Both are rooted in New England. These comments are generalizations and the issues are complex and multifaceted. I also believe that federalism, decentralization, a limited government prohibited from exceeding its enumerated powers (the 10th Amendment: Enforced),with religious, personal and political liberty would provide, in the civilization that ain't going anywhere soon, a place where you and I and our progeny can practice their religion in accordance with their convictions without being persecuted for being weird. These values are found in the Southern tradition which, is constantly under attack by both the Nationists and Globalists. Unfortunately, some of the most strident Nationalists are, in fact, Southern politicians.

Probably true, re: us Yankees and the nationalism thing, although I wouldn't classify it as nationalism necessarily. There's too many different cultures, and the cultures can sometimes be too different from one another, for the union to be a real nation. I've always called it an intra-empire: an empire, internally, because only the rule of law, and everything that comes with it, can really keep all of these varying regional subcultures and subnations (states) cohesive. It's fragility is pretty noticeable.

Aw cheese, this is gonna require a whole separate post but, don't hold your breath I'm pretty darn lazy.

[jaybreak]

Gadzooks Jay! I didn't mean to insult Pennsylvanians by saying they were from East Anglia, my bad. The Puritans were from East Anglia, the mid Atlantic states were settled by folks from the English Midlands. The Southern Tidewater region was settled by Southern English and the backwoods by Scots Irish, plain old Scots, some Welsh and northern Englishsters. Also some Germans and Jews in North and South Carolina. Each contributing to the development of distinct regional cultures. The idea of a single American culture is and always has been bunk.

I actually grew up in Massachusetts, so I don't mind you badmouthing Pittsburgh or PA. I actually don't mind you badmouthing New Englanders, either. They can be a stuffy lot, and really conservative and stingy with employment--I had to move to find a "career" job. If you're a little bit not what they expect, you won't find gainful Bachelor-degree level employment in New England.

Living where I do, I've had the opportunity to observe the peculiarities of the Yankee as they colonize Watauga county, NC. This led me to the question "why are these people so different and why are they so condescending, critical and dismissive of the existing culture as backward? Why do they want to enact the very same policies that ruined the places they left?" I have no answer to the latter question but, I now have an explanation for the former. Now if I was to badmouth them I would say "Yankee's are self righteous assholes who believe it is their mission to intervene and force their ideas on everyone else, thereby creating a better world" The Nationist ideal of one nation, indivisible and a single "American" culture is a Yankee invention dating back to the Revolutionary period; Globalism is merely an extension of this ideology. Both are rooted in New England. These comments are generalizations and the issues are complex and multifaceted. I also believe that federalism, decentralization, a limited government prohibited from exceeding its enumerated powers (the 10th Amendment: Enforced),with religious, personal and political liberty would provide, in the civilization that ain't going anywhere soon, a place where you and I and our progeny can practice their religion in accordance with their convictions without being persecuted for being weird. These values are found in the Southern tradition which, is constantly under attack by both the Nationists and Globalists. Unfortunately, some of the most strident Nationalists are, in fact, Southern politicians.

Probably true, re: us Yankees and the nationalism thing, although I wouldn't classify it as nationalism necessarily. There's too many different cultures, and the cultures can sometimes be too different from one another, for the union to be a real nation. I've always called it an intra-empire: an empire, internally, because only the rule of law, and everything that comes with it, can really keep all of these varying regional subcultures and subnations (states) cohesive. It's fragility is pretty noticeable.

Aw cheese, this is gonna require a whole separate post but, don't hold your breath I'm pretty darn lazy.

You're not lazy, you're just drawn that way.

(Remember Roger Rabbit?)

[IainH]

I actually grew up in Massachusetts, so I don't mind you badmouthing Pittsburgh or PA. I actually don't mind you badmouthing New Englanders, either. They can be a stuffy lot, and really conservative and stingy with employment--I had to move to find a "career" job. If you're a little bit not what they expect, you won't find gainful Bachelor-degree level employment in New England.

Living where I do, I've had the opportunity to observe the peculiarities of the Yankee as they colonize Watauga county, NC. This led me to the question "why are these people so different and why are they so condescending, critical and dismissive of the existing culture as backward? Why do they want to enact the very same policies that ruined the places they left?" I have no answer to the latter question but, I now have an explanation for the former. Now if I was to badmouth them I would say "Yankee's are self righteous assholes who believe it is their mission to intervene and force their ideas on everyone else, thereby creating a better world" The Nationist ideal of one nation, indivisible and a single "American" culture is a Yankee invention dating back to the Revolutionary period; Globalism is merely an extension of this ideology. Both are rooted in New England. These comments are generalizations and the issues are complex and multifaceted. I also believe that federalism, decentralization, a limited government prohibited from exceeding its enumerated powers (the 10th Amendment: Enforced),with religious, personal and political liberty would provide, in the civilization that ain't going anywhere soon, a place where you and I and our progeny can practice their religion in accordance with their convictions without being persecuted for being weird. These values are found in the Southern tradition which, is constantly under attack by both the Nationists and Globalists. Unfortunately, some of the most strident Nationalists are, in fact, Southern politicians.

Probably true, re: us Yankees and the nationalism thing, although I wouldn't classify it as nationalism necessarily. There's too many different cultures, and the cultures can sometimes be too different from one another, for the union to be a real nation. I've always called it an intra-empire: an empire, internally, because only the rule of law, and everything that comes with it, can really keep all of these varying regional subcultures and subnations (states) cohesive. It's fragility is pretty noticeable.

Aw cheese, this is gonna require a whole separate post but, don't hold your breath I'm pretty darn lazy.

You're not lazy, you're just drawn that way.

(Remember Roger Rabbit?)

Yeah, you adapted a Jessica Rabbit line, bueno bwana. Espanobantu, the language of Latino-South Africans.