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Who Polices the Police? - Ed Hurst - 03-17-2018
Time for another rant. Here's the reference point that provokes me: Leaked Documents Expose NYPD's Long-Running Lack Of Officer Discipline
After serving as a Military Policeman, I took a great interest in the whole idea of law enforcement. Having law enforcement is a basic requirement of Biblical Law. The way we do it in the West is what offends Biblical Law. First, there's the false pretense that folks from all manner of nations and tribes can be thrust together into a single society. In a situation like that, somebody is going to get walked on, and it's usually the folks who try to mind their own business. The oppressive nannies of the world always rule become nobody else wants to.
Second, there's the false idea that in such a diverse society, you can somehow create a fair and impartial police force drawn from the same people being policed. That works if a given society belongs to a single culture because it feels like your own family is policing things. But it doesn't work in a diverse society that pretends there is only one culture, as is the way of things in the US. Everyone then starts to imagine that their own culture is, or ought to be, "the one."
The only way to have an impartial police force over a diverse society is by using soldiers hired from a foreign country. A civilian police force has never worked in diverse societies; there has always been a serious problem of oppression with it. It leads to leveraging the police force for more than the cause of simple public order. Criminal investigation must be a separate function, using an entirely separate agency. The current peacekeeping-investigatory hybrid agency cannot be impartial. One of the most dangerous things about fake impartiality is that the police are subject to every imaginable pressure to go easy on one person and not on another. If bribery is the only weakness, then it's easier to minimize the impact. When the pressures arise from mixed loyalties, it's impossible to manage. The addition of police unions only makes that situation worse, being blatantly partial.
Again, the only way to have any faint hope of fairness is if the police are your kin. Whatever might be bad about a patriarchal tribal society, everything else is far worse.
Anyway, the article linked above tries to answer all the wrong questions. The article does imply a certain collection of solutions, but those have never worked and they never will. The NYPD is an abomination to God in part because NY City is an abomination to God, as is the US and the whole of Western Civilization.
RE: Who Polices the Police? - jaybreak - 03-18-2018
It's for reasons like the ones you stated above that the Black Panthers gained credibility, though people on the outside I think couldn't articulate why, even if they "felt" like they understood. Placing people in authority above you, that look/act/believe nothing like the way you do, is one of the worst ideas imaginable. Sure, there are exceptions, but doing it on such a large scale is asking for major trouble.